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How would you appreciate a user belittling your skills and qualifications? Would A philipino based Doctor appreciate being told he can only practice in the Philpines because he could practice or register in America? Would a Nurse like to be told her qulification was substandard because it was from the university of Shefield rather than London? Would a science graduate appreciate being told that their degree must be crap because they got into uni based on their life experience not their high school grades? I'm supposed to just "suck it up" when i am shown the equivalent level of ignorance and disrespect. I'll add my Qualification is BSc Hons. The year I was awarded it my university was in the top 50 of UK universities So what are you all gonna do? Tink, I;m trying to illustrate that we should behave more respectfully to each other. You didn't have to Answer this question. You chose to rather than ignore it. Why? Gary: Exactly when did i say creationism was a scientific theory. Its a theory yes. Scientific. Not a chance. Philosophy can hardly be described a science. Does that invalidate it or does it open up some possibilities and raise questions? Tink, I;m trying to illustrate that we should behave more respectfully to each other. You didn't have to Answer this question. You chose to rather than ignore it. Why? Gary: Exactly when did i say creationism was a scientific theory. Its a theory yes. Scientific. Not a chance. Philosophy can hardly be described a science. Does that invalidate it or does it open up some possibilities and raise questions? I'm not persecuted. I'm unwilling to let this vitriole and disgusting rude behaviour pass without pointing out the hypocrisy of the people who tolerate it and feed it. You don't like it go and F*** yourself. Have a lovely weekend I'm gonna hit the beers! No Gary I did not. I'm trying to get you all to think. Evolution is a theory based on 150 year old science. if Darwin was alive today he would certainly come up with a theory of Evolution but I'm sure it would be markedly different to 150 years ago. So far no one has come up with a more plausible theory. By default that doesn't make it correct or mean it isn't full of holes. No Gary I did not. I'm trying to get you all to think. Evolution is a theory based on 150 year old science. if Darwin was alive today he would certainly come up with a theory of Evolution but I'm sure it would be markedly different to 150 years ago. So far no one has come up with a more plausible theory. By default that doesn't make it correct or mean it isn't full of holes. Rhianna, you do make a valid point about the entry requirements for the Osteopathic colleges. The reason is funding. Where as physiotherapy got full funding, if you wanted to study osteopathy you had to stump up 6500 per annum! Consequently if you want to keep your college running you accept more people than you would if you had a queue of people who had paid places to choose from. This does not mean they let everybody who started finish. The drop out rate was very high. They always over recruited in the 1st year because lots of them would not be there in the 2nd year. Although they would let more than they should through the door, you would not pass if you were not of the required standard. 18 year olds who went through UCAS had similar requirement to get in as Physiotherapy. only about 25 % of the enterants in my college were 18 -20. Most were mature students. around 1/2 my class already had degrees. Rhianna, you do make a valid point about the entry requirements for the Osteopathic colleges. The reason is funding. Where as physiotherapy got full funding, if you wanted to study osteopathy you had to stump up 6500 per annum! Consequently if you want to keep your college running you accept more people than you would if you had a queue of people who had paid places to choose from. This does not mean they let everybody who started finish. The drop out rate was very high. They always over recruited in the 1st year because lots of them would not be there in the 2nd year. Although they would let more than they should through the door, you would not pass if you were not of the required standard. 18 year olds who went through UCAS had similar requirement to get in as Physiotherapy. only about 25 % of the enterants in my college were 18 -20. Most were mature students. around 1/2 my class already had degrees. Rhianna, you do make a valid point about the entry requirements for the Osteopathic colleges. The reason is funding. Where as physiotherapy got full funding, if you wanted to study osteopathy you had to stump up 6500 per annum! Consequently if you want to keep your college running you accept more people than you would if you had a queue of people who had paid places to choose from. This does not mean they let everybody who started finish. The drop out rate was very high. They always over recruited in the 1st year because lots of them would not be there in the 2nd year. Although they would let more than they should through the door, you would not pass if you were not of the required standard. 18 year olds who went through UCAS had similar requirement to get in as Physiotherapy. only about 25 % of the enterants in my college were 18 -20. Most were mature students. around 1/2 my class already had degrees. 1 had an MSc in Immuniology another a BSc from Cambs. Neither found the course easy. (one of them failed the Final Clinical and had to resit it!) The OSteopathic Colleges now have funding so the "bar" has been raised to gain entry since I qualified. The standard of the final clinical hasn't changed. I don't recall ever telling anyone that I am a 'doctor'. My qualification is BSc (hons) not Phd. NB. Physiotherapists, opticians and podiatrists aren't Doctors either. But its ok for them to treat the public? I understand some of the answerers here i s In QE from Thunderwood college. The link below has the entry requirement for the Oxford Brookes Osteopathic Degree http://www.brookes.ac.uk/studying/courses/undergraduate/2010/osteo_bm "BBB at A-level: must include Biology/Human Biology." http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/Default.aspx?Id=293 For Physio-therapy 'In England and Wales school leavers are normally required to have three A levels at grade A-C (one should be a biological science)'
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How many people have told you that you are begging for it? That you lead with the chin? and then wonder why - and on top of that whine -WHINE- like a little girl. So yes, suck it up: grow a set like a man and shut up. Edit: You were doing nothing of the kind. You were resorting to your "I'm persecuted because I'm special and no one understands my outrage" whining again. Really, it's immaturity disgusts me. Edit II: I don't like it, and I'll wager most don't either. Go fuck yourself really is the most intelligent thing you have left to say. At least it's a nice change from your usual 'boo-hoo-hoo'.
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You have a Bachelor of Science degree and you think creationism is scientific theory? I'm skeptical. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ald7Fnc18eEBle3yaPJGdFfty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20101027111953AAsOeHS&show=7#profile-info-104025e47a755a6bdfed8bff7580231daa ------- EDIT: You didn't 'exactly' say it - but you meant it. The question was about science teaching and that's the context you presented it in. If you are going to back-peddle here then you should also go back and correct that answer.
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perhaps you are not used to dealing with hardcore medical groupies. sure, it's easier to avoid them rather than listen to their arrogant stupidity, but someone should stand and tell the truth, and it does please me to irritate them by doing so. you will never get their acceptance( note i didn't say "win", which implies having acquired something of value). they are hopelessly blind and deluded, and they cannot save themselves, much less anyone else.
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I think this is an abuse of the question answer format And this a bit rich considering the abuse you try to give me for not being a doctor. Constantly trying to say what's your job so that you can try to discredit my answers. Hypocryte.. Someone tries to discredit you so NOW it's wrong but not when you did it. ADDED. Btw my science education is clearly of a better standard than yours and you're not a doctor either
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After a good deal of consideration, introspection and analysis of the ideas presented, my conclusion would have to be "lmao!".
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The difference here is that what Apropos says about your "profession" is more or less accurate. What you said about us, isn't. You've put yourself in this position because you are trying to claim UK trained Osteos are something they aren't. You are not a front line health care worker. The entry requirements for Osteo school here in the UK are pretty low. In addition, you are a science denialist. Stop being so insecure. "So what are you all gonna do?" LOL @ you. Stop whining.
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I just answered this same question via email. Apropos has some valid points you should address Lightning. Go do it. At least you're brave enough to answer him unlike thenoseknows who blatantly gives erroneous medical advice but then hides when somebody who really knows medicine calls him out on his bullshit.
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There's an old piece of wisdom that says "consider where it comes from". These critics are not your peers or colleagues or, more importantly, your patients, not anyone of any importance or signifiance to you. They have no influence over your professional practise, or over the public at large.
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